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    Anwar sparks FB debate on LGBT rights

    Opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim's comments about the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community's standing in a Pakatan Rakyat federal government has sparked a lively debate on Facebook.

    Seksualiti Merdeka, a group dedicated to fighting for Malaysian LGBT rights, posted a chat thread between Anwar and Yahoo! readers today, during which Anwar was asked if LGBTs would not be discriminated against if Pakatan were to take Putrajaya, considering Islamist party PAS would be part of the federal government.

    "We recognise the importance of family and the institution of marriage. But we should not unduly harass or discriminate others. The answer is through education and PAS accepts this view," was Anwar's answer.

    Comments on Seksualiti Merdeka's Facebook page ranged from supportive to cynical.

    Some people seemed to take offence to his comment regarding 'education', questioning if Anwar was referring to the boot camp for 'sissies' mooted in Terengganu for effeminate male school students.

    Seksualiti Merdeka co-founder Pang Khee Teik questioned how Anwar would protect the community from discrimination and harassment.

    Homophobic sentiments

    "It is fine to say we should not harass or discriminate, but the fact is that isn't going to stop harassment and discrimination until we put good policies in place," he said.

    He added that he found the usage of the word 'unduly' to be curious.

    "Does this mean that there is an acceptable limit to harassing and discriminating others after which it becomes 'unduly'? Is it okay to 'duly' harass and discriminate?" he asked.

    He added that Anwar could have 'turned the tables on BN' by pointing out that it was inciting homophobic sentiments merely to sway public opinion against him (Anwar).

    Pang also had a different view of Anwar's words on 'the importance of family and the institution of marriage'.

    (Reuters Photos)(Reuters Photos)"I, too, recognise the importance of family and the institution of marriage, namely, the importance of families that accept differences and an institution of marriage that does not prevent LGBTs from full participation in society," he said.

    Other reactions were more positive.

    "I thought he was gracious enough to word it like he did actually. If he in any way said he supports LGBTs, he'd instantly lose PAS' support, and the conservative vote which unfortunately makes up a majority in this country. At least he pledged not to harass or discriminate," said one commentator.

    'A leap'

    Another commentator said Anwar's statement, while barely the minimum expected from the LBGT community, was considered 'a leap' on Anwar's part considering the sodomy charges he was currently facing and the demonisation of the LBGT community in Malaysia.

    There were also those who dismissed Anwar's words as merely a ploy to get to Putrajaya.

    "I think Anwar will say anything to get people to vote him into power. As to whether he will actually put his money where his mouth is, I don't know," said one commentator, while another said Anwar's comment translated to 'Vote for me and I'll close one eye to you'.

    However, the most succinct response to Anwar's comments came from one 'Leroy Luar'.

    "Evasive...but what more can one expect," he said.

    Seksualiti Merdeka plans to commemorate International Day Against Homophobia on May 29.

     

    70 comments

    • Nate Adam  •  1 year 0 months ago
      bn not perfect..but so is pr...im not obsessed with anyone or any party....my vote will go to someone who will benefit malaysias economy..my constituency development..i dont care about cheap stories..dont be influenced in voting...follow ya own instinct in the end
    • Siti Nursyafiqa Syaqireen  •  1 year 0 months ago
      its complicated when both parties are seeking the good out of something so wrong. its nvr right to harass or dicriminate others b4 fully grasping the situation. But LGBT rights should not be granted. if they want the harassments 2 stop, try asking yourselves why did it start in the 1st place? instead of blaming others n justifying yourselves, try to understand how others feel as well. life is much less complicated if we're able to understand n tolerate one another.
      • WTF 1 year 0 months ago
        it works both ways dear. have YOU put made any effort or taken the initiative to try to understand and tolerate the LGBTs?
      • Durian 1 year 0 months ago
        Sue-Ellen, it's not about effort....this is not new but maybe you can help us a step further by trying to make us see the light like you seem to be able see it. I'm not joking but am very serious about this! I've always wondered if a person is born to be a gay or normal....ditakdir ke, a matter of no choice ke? I'm still wondering... Is it environmental, genetic or what? Kalau ditakdir, then why was 'God' angry to wipe out 'Sodom and Gemorah'? Why did he kill the gays there? The bible is terrible!
      • earthling 1 year 0 months ago
        Sue-Ellen, I don���t think that Siti Nursyafiqa Syaqireen is speaking for adults only. In the back of her mind she probably acknowledges that a large part of the 6 billion world population is made up of children. So, she is probably speaking on behalf of those parents. Whether she is a parent herself is not really a point, I���d say.

        As for me, I am a CELIBATE. You know, NO SEX. Not hetro, @#$%, bi nor auto. But do I support sex? Yes. Only of the religiously sanctified type. Do I support LGBT? No. For the sake of the future generation. Do I support their persecution? No. To set an example of compassion towards all beings for the future generation.

        So what is LGBT to me? It is an unfortunate condition like so many other unfortunate conditions that afflict us humans. I belong to that group of people who do not like to spread unfortunate conditions. But like all other unfortunate conditions they cannot be totally eradicated. So we tolerate with compassion. We try to understand that it is a perverted sickness. The lucky may be able to come out of it while the unlucky will remain stuck.
    • Awg Du  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Terima kasih kepada kerjan BN. Coz memberikan sumbangan berupa laptop kepada penuntut Sekolah Menangah Limbang (SMKL) Yg mana pemberian tersebut tidak memilih bulu. Dimana, anak anak pembankang juga tidak diketepikan. Dan selain itu sumbangan 300k dari DS Muhiddin Yassin, serta 30K daripada YB Tuan, HJ Hasb. Setentunya sangat bermakan bagi keperluan sekolh terbabit. Walaupun saya tidak mempunyai anak atau siapa2 yg menuntut di sana dan ini bukanlah kali pertama sekolah terbabit memberi sumbangan seperti itu. Tetapi saya tumpang gembira, dimana saya dapat merasakan keseronokan anak yg kebanyakanya rata rata orng tua mereka berpendapatan rendah. So di harap kepada negeri2 yg di perintah kerjan pembangkang, tak kira di mana saja berada agar lebih perhatin kepada para penuntut, kalau bolah lebihkan lagi daripada apa kerjan BN sumbangkan. Itu pun kalau bolah...tapi saya yakin DS Anuar banyak duit.
      • besi berani 1 year 0 months ago
        Satu lagi tindakan kurang bijak dari BN. Lebih baik peruntukan tersebut digunakan untuk beri biasiswa kepada ramai pelajar-pelajar cemerlang yang masih memerlukan bantuan. Biasiswa sepatutnya bukan untuk pelajar 8A+ sahaja. Yang dapat 5A pun sudah lebih daripada layak tetapi malang usaha mereka tidak mendapat perhatian. Dan mereka ini ramai daripada kalangan anak bumiputera.Kepada individu yang mendapat kontrak membekal laptop tersebut tahniah diucapkan kerana anda sudah bertambah KAYA... Kepada ibu bapa yang anaknya mendapat laptop tahniah kerana tambah tanggungjawab iaitu selain perlu memantau handphone, anda juga perlu memantau laptop anak anda.
      • PK2121 1 year 0 months ago
        jaangan tertipu.. cuba selidik berapa harga laptop ?? berapa untung syarikat yang membekal ??? berapa pula bahagian mereka yang mengurus ??? yang mencadangkan idea ini pun ada bahagiannya... congak pula berapa ketirisan pembaziran wang rakya yang berlaku ???
      • Durian 1 year 0 months ago
        Orang ini mudah dibeli! Bukankah benda-benda sperti ini sebenarnya hak-hak asasi anak-anak Sarawak! Betapa lumayannya sumber asli Sawarak! Segalanya disapu Taib Mahmud ke dalam sakunya. Sekarang dilihat orang ini berwatak sebagai pengemis di tepi Lombong Emasnya sendiri! Adoi!
    • tiger  •  1 year 0 months ago
      untuk pengetahuan yg tak tau, sebelum PR memerintah Selangor setiap kali nak sambut Aidilfitri & Aidiladha anak2 yatim & fakir miskin dpt pelbagai bantuan tanpa mengira parti apa pun yang mereka sokong.
      Tapi sekarang.. tak ada lagi dah. Ini yang dijanjikan PR? Kerajaan berkebajikan?
      Kalau masih tak percaya tanyalah sendiri pada orang PAS atau PKR yang pernah menerima bantuan dpd kerajaan BN di Selangor. Ada lagi ke? Kalau tak nak jadi munafik, jawab lah dengan jujur ya..
      • Sshamal50 1 year 0 months ago
        how dengkil is your brain.....u think BN give u for free.... the source is from rasuah & kaki bodek all over the country.... and you think semua nya halal......work for your food!!!!!
      • NEMO 1 year 0 months ago
        Kau pun sama baghal shamal... nak bodek anwar dan karpal pu singh..nanti mereka akan bagi dia orang punye screw drivers for free too!!
      • tiger 1 year 0 months ago
        if u really want to work for yr own foods then why u asked for subsidy & u think that's halal?

        what do u know about halal & riba? if just heard Nik Aziz's campaign without learn properly, u should just shut up yr mouth.

        don't acted like a clever man without using your brain man lol
    • super arm  •  1 year 0 months ago
      only PAS accepts anuar's view..
      • niza 1 year 0 months ago
        kau ni bengong ka? pas takkan terima punya apa anwar cakap pasal transeksualiti tu. 100% bercanggah dengan Islam,
      • PangLima Warrior 1 year 0 months ago
        anuar kata pas ok
      • super arm 1 year 0 months ago
        you're right panglima warior....
    • tiger  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Takde lah nak sebelah mana2 pihak tp kalau dah nama org poltik, berjanji adalah syarat utama

      Tunai janji lain lah ceritanya

      Jangan lah sibuk sangat dengan demokrasi.. demokrasi tu asal dpd yunani bukan Islam pun

      Lebih baik kembali kepada sistem musyawarah seperti perlantikan Khalifah2 Ar Rasyidin.. itulah yg terbaik utk semua umat manusia atas muka bumi ni

      Kalau Nik Aziz nak bangkang juga.. tak tau apa nak cakap lagi
      • Dean Lee 1 year 0 months ago
        Nik Aziz.. confirm bantah.!
      • Zol Shari 1 year 0 months ago
        Confirmed Nik Aziz bantah pasal tak boleh kat dia. Di negeri dah Sultan, negara pula hak Agong. Jika Pilihanraya Pentadbiran diadakan, maka parti yang menang majoriti akan menentukan barisan kepimpinan untuk pentadbiran negara dan di negeri2. Andai Agong dan Majlis Raja2 restu DS Najib sebagai PM dan dah tentunya PM akan pilih dan tentukan pemimpin2 di negeri2. Maka melepaslah Nik Aziz
      • Da_One 1 year 0 months ago
        Kepada En. JeffreyA, ke anda yang belum amik dadah..??? xboleh terima apa dia ckp, diam, bingai..
    • Mohan  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Biasanya kalau seseorang yang tidak menghisap rokok, dia mesti tak suka orang hisap rokok, Asapnya bau busuk lah, membazirkan duit lah,,macam macam lagi lah yang menunjukkan kebenciannya kepada rokok..Tapi kalau yang suka atau ketagih tu,,dia akan kata bahawa dialah penyumbang kepada pendapatan negara dengan membayar cukai rokok yang tinggi..

      Begitu juga lah dengan dia ni sorang..Dah nampak sangat dia memang minat nak maen. Tak kira lah lelaki ke atau pompuan. Tak payah nak kata dia tak buat, cara tunjuk minat tu pun dah tau memang dia jenis macam itu..Suka maen..
    • irasya  •  1 year 0 months ago
      That's how a good muslim as Anwar be !
    • The Watcher  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Inilah wajah pemimpin sebenar..asal dapat memerintah negara..sanggup buat apa saja..sedarlah rakyat Malysia siapa Anwar yang sebenar dan kunco-kunconya..
    • Ismaun  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Why only speak to Anuar done? Why not Najib for his and his wife?
      What Najib say all right? Hasmah...? Money...! Hasmah spent...? I don't think hasmah do the right ...!
    • Norliza Reduan  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Kalau itulah yang terjadi maka KIAMAT dah duduk dalam mulut............
      Dan sebagai hambanya aku berdoa kepada ALLAH semoga KIAMAT berlaku
      sebelum sempat ANWARIBRAHIM duduk dikerusi PM. Tak rela negara ini ditadbir
      oleh orang yang MUNAFIK dan TAK SEDAR DIRI.
    • Farid Al-hamdi  •  1 year 0 months ago
      dalam al-quran dah clearly larang golongan LGBT ni lagi(xde baca kisah kaum nabi Lut ker diambil sebagai pengajaran akibat azab allah) mahu tolak ansur hanya kerna cita2 nak jadi PM!!! nahuzubillah ini yg disokong oleh umat islam zaman skrg ker???? Nak tukar agama pun dah boleh tiada halangan kalau AnU-wAr jd PM..... tolenrasi mamat ni ikut ajaran al-quran atau al-kitab... yg menyokong AnU-wAr tu tolong buat solat hajat solat istirgharrah mohon pertunjuk sebelum menyesal nnt laungan azan pun kena haram takut diganggu golongan al-kitab nak beristirehat.... kepada yg menyokong mamat x sedar diri bawa mengucap kalimah ashhaduallah byk2 selagi sempat.......ALLAH HUAKHBAR PERANGI GOLONGAN MUNAFIK DAN FASIK INI HABIS HABISAN.......HALAH DARAH MEREKA INI.......ALLAH HUAKHBAR ALLAH HUAKHBAR ALLAH HUAKHBAR
    • Diego  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Let's see what PAS has to say about this!!!!!
    • Suckerberg  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Try asking Najib these questions. These people posted as concerned citizen but are actually trying to playdown Anwar's popularity. What type of answer would you expect from him? He can neither support or unsupportive of such practices.
    • snakehead 03  •  1 year 0 months ago
      YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO kalau ANWAR jadik PM MAY 29 cuti umum boleh sambut hari GAY boleh gi Umah Anwar dia buat open house
    • humbleforest  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Dear LBGT or "same gender proximity" Community,

      Please do not mislead humankind against Nature, as you are all not be discriminated, if you all truly practise moral values correctly. Befriend, but not in marriage or sexual misconduct.

      We must not marginalise nor discriminate these ���third sex��� or ���abnormal��� people. Yes, it���s true we have no right to comment or discriminate or segregate them from the society. Actually it is not a fault of theirs. We are of the same citizens of this planet, Earth. We all also came from the same source, the children of One True GOD, once upon a time. But due to several rebirths we tend to forget our true or pure-self. It is that 95 % of our potential capacity mind is covered with our past and present sinful deeds.

      Human beings are unable to comprehend the world beyond because they are too attached to worldly materials, glamour and pleasures. Whether one believes or not is not significant.

      At this present moment the most important issue for us to understand seriously is our precious life, as well as time. Do not waste both. Make good use of both. Only human beings are able to purify themselves in virtuous morals in mind, body and soul in-order to seek for a return journey to their original plane of Pure Land where eternal happiness and life awaits.

      The ���third party sex��� of people need help to understand the value of life.
      The Government and the non-governmental organisations should open a ���counselling center��� not a marriage center to mislead the next generations of people.

      Why the Supreme Lord creates Male and Female, is because HE expects human beings of opposite sex will produce a generation of moral people. But due to humans ignorance and egoism, humans tend to lean astray and against Nature. In return some born as it is, but majority make it as a custom or for self interest.

      When human beings became civilized and started to know how to calculate many problems arise until today. Humans are still cheating and killing one another till this modern era. Peace are heard in ages of lips but not in true action. Do we need to see future generation where majority of our Global Community to follow in this confused manner ?

      The ���third sex��� of people need spiritual counselling, not segregation or going against the natural law where the co-existence of yin and yang can only produce harmony in pure ener----. Let them understand that they are very fortunate to be in a human form. Only in a human form are they able to purify their mind, body and soul in moral values to seek for their original eternal PURE LAND which is beyond the planes of reincarnation or the ���seas of suffering. ���They are better off than the fairies and demi-gods who need to reborn in a human body for a return to eternity. Believe it or not, let it be. But it is nothing to lose than to regret it later.

      Whatever sex we are, we must not devalue our precious life now. We must have a respect and gratitude to the Supreme Almighty for giving us the body form as well as our parents for nurturing and guiding us rightly and morally well.

      Our body is not a playing object or a toy. It is used to inter-act correctly and harmoniously to produce a moral valued next generation of a pure society without too complexity.

      Life is ���valueless��� It is very beautiful, meaningful, wonderful and useful if one knows how. But it will be bitter, sour, ugly. miserable, dirty and more sufferings if one knows not.

      Thank you to all of you for the sharing as ONE same Human Being, creation from the Merciful Almighty, the Creator.
    • Joe  •  1 year 0 months ago
      This is anwar the great gay.
    • Bang Husin dan Hajis  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Gay and Lesbians beware! Anwar will screw both of you!
    • Mohd..  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Tak Lama lagi orang orang PKR akan angkat DSAI sebagai Nabi dan akan letak DSAI sama taraf dengan Nabi ISA dan mulai menumbah patongnya........Kalau dah sampai tahap ini pun masih buta kayu lagi tak nak buka mata dan minda untuk melihat kebenaran apalagi yang mereka percaya......Suka hati kau oranglah ......Lantaklah nak kubur masing masing.....Nak homosexual ke ke nak bisexual ke lesbian ke.... besok anak jantan kita bawa balik Jantan juga dan mengaku isteri dia terima ajelah sebagai menantu..... lepas tu shukurlah kepada tuan kerana dapat juga menantu akhirnya....... DSAI INI DAH GILA AGAKNYA DAN PENYOKONG DIA DAH BIOL NAMPAKNYA SAMAPAI TAK TAHU HALA TUJU.......JANGANLAH PR MENANG TAKAT TUHAN TURUNKAN BALA PADA NEGARA KITA NANTI.....
    • Deansmen Dean  •  1 year 0 months ago
      what ever anwar ibrahim says...he is not relevant anymore in malaysian politics..he s a questionable immoral personality........

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